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Post by zipzam on Sept 9, 2006 12:32:08 GMT -6
also... if "every other cop is doing this at one time or another"... tupelo has some serious problems.
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Post by granny2young on Sept 9, 2006 20:44:40 GMT -6
I don't think he changed any reports? If he did I haven't heard that.
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Post by Pontotocmom on Sept 10, 2006 7:48:20 GMT -6
No it isn't okay to break the law. BUT I do know that a lot of cops do fix tickets at one time or another during their careers. I believe, because of it being so serious that he was punished enough. I don't know the man, never heard of him until these threads started popping up. But he was demoted, and I think it was re-opened because of public outcry not because they made a wrong decision. Of course they haven't shared with me their new evidence so I could be wrong. I know if I got a ticket which I've never had before I would want someone to do away with it. Now if I was drunk and driving, no I wouldn't expect someone to do away with it. And would never ask. But from my understanding of this case the boy was still charged he only got to go home with his parents instead of going to jail for the night. Like I said I'm not really up on this case but that is what I understand.
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Post by granny2young on Sept 10, 2006 19:04:10 GMT -6
"While our investigation showed Deputy Chief Robert Hall's actions were inappropriate and questionable, they did not constitute a crime," Attorney General Jim Hood said in a prepared statement.
If his actions do not constitute a crime and no specific law was broken, it needs to be dropped. This mess is only continuing because of the NAACP. They need to leave well enough alone. The thing that Robert Hall done wrong was "allowing the suspect to leave and not go to jail that night." He was still charged he just did not have to spend the night in jail, same as bonding out, which is allowable by law for anyone. The NAACP is yelling because he was demoted, when they should accept it, move on, and let Robert get back to work. He is a fine officer and is respected by many for his decision. It was a child and he was allowed to go home with his parents verses jail. Good call under the circumstances. I am sure the boy and his family are still paying out the butt. He wasn't really given any special favors in the end. This is nothing more than talking your way out of a ticket and getting a warning from an officer. If you were speeding, you should have received that ticket, but sometimes you get lucky and an officer will let you go.
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Post by zipzam on Sept 11, 2006 7:57:15 GMT -6
I don't think he changed any reports? If he did I haven't heard that. that's why i put "IF". it's one of the many rumors out there. that's my first gripe about this case. the daily urinal and wtva dang sure didn't bother to cover it. the only way most of us knew about it is from message boards. hall did "something"... what he did, who knows. it could have been a very very minor thing that didn't even warrant a demotion. again... who knows. the mayor and chief of police came out with a strong "no comment" after hall was investigated/demoted. wth? you demote someone and tell the taxpayers "no comment"? it's no wonder the naacp got involved after the way it was handled. "no comment". pffffffft. what's worse, the AG is now basically admitting they didn't investigate well enough the first time around. so... a decision was made after poorly investigating? i'll remember that in the next election jimbo... |
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Post by momof3 on Sept 11, 2006 12:38:22 GMT -6
I heard that it had to do with the hit and run on McCullough Blvd. where a child got hurt. Has anyone else heard this?
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Post by granny2young on Sept 11, 2006 13:05:59 GMT -6
no one was hurt bad mom. it was a hit and run, so to speak, but the boy came back to scene after going for police, so technically he was not charged with hit and run, he just left to get help. A person was hit riding a bicycle; a traffic accident. not serious enough to require hospialization, but still a child was hit. The way it has been reported the accident was unavoidable and he was not being charged with dangerous driving or anything. The problem came in when the officer smelled alcohol. Hall released the kid to his parents instead of taking him to jail. Only difference, he would have had to bond out and still got to go home.
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Post by King Rat on Sept 11, 2006 14:00:29 GMT -6
I don't know the details of the case but I would like to make a couple of general points:
1) If Hall let the boy go to his parents because of who the boy (or his parents) ARE, whether it be friends of Hall's or "well-standing citizens" then Hall should have been demoted. Everyone should be treated fairly by the law - though we all know everyone isn't.
2) I have a problem with the strict enforcement of "hit and run". There should be a period of time, in certain situations, in which the person should be allowed to come to their senses and contact the police. I've never been in the situtation but I can imagine circumstances where a person has legitimate reasons to be afraid to stay on the scene. One which comes to mind was a case a few years ago (I think in Chicago or Detroit - somewhere like that) where a guy tried to avoid an accident and lost control of his vehicle, swerved into a porch where some people were sitting. Before the cops could arrive an angry mob beat the driver to death. I'm pretty sure no one was every prosecuted for the murder but then again the driver was white and the mob was black so there was no public outcry.
3) And I just hate to hear the "everyone does it" argument. Just because some people get away with breaking the law doesn't mean we don't prosecute the ones who get caught.
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Post by granny2young on Sept 11, 2006 17:30:39 GMT -6
Just because some people get away with breaking the law doesn't mean we don't prosecute the ones who get caught. what law was broken? Even the AG said no specific law was broken and I can't think of one. |
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Post by TF Admin on Sept 11, 2006 17:35:06 GMT -6
Just wanted to point out that AFAIK, the man who did the hit and run will still have to appear in court for his DUI trial. The reason I mention this is that we were told he was recog'd, meaning he was charged, and ticketed, and was sent home. Again, as far as anyone knows, he is still charged with a crime, and will have to answer for it.
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Post by granny2young on Sept 12, 2006 7:35:52 GMT -6
exactly, so I don't even understand the demotion. The boy was still charged.
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Post by rutrow on Sept 12, 2006 9:13:29 GMT -6
I have to agree with Zip in that if the local media would have covered this, there would not be as much speculation. People want to know the truth, not rumors.
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Post by TF Admin on Sept 12, 2006 10:49:17 GMT -6
Agreed, but without some serious investigative journalism by someone.....anyone, the status quo will remain, and we, the citizens will remain ignorant. Man! I sound like JPB now.
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Post by zipzam on Sept 13, 2006 8:12:40 GMT -6
get out the popcorn!
hall has hired jim waide... waide has asked for a public hearing on whether or not hall should get his job back.
a public hearing??? what??? and let everyone know the facts???
lol... we'll see.
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Post by granny2young on Sept 13, 2006 8:18:04 GMT -6
this is where someone is going to have to fill me in. The atty asked for a public hearing. Good. But read on down and it says that the driver of the car was indicted by the grand jury. Don't sound like Hall did him any favors. He is still answering for his crime. Why is everyone after Hall? It is obvious this young kid was treated no differently than anyone else.
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