West Memphis Three Support Show

[DarkenedSoul]

peasncarrots said:

the so-called documentaries are biased at best......were any of you supporters of these 3 killers at the trials?.....if not, shut the hell up!....you have only seen one side of the story....

PnC, Question were you at the Trail's?

[missfairy]

Wow have you actually seen the documentaries? Because they show lots of different suspects that were never properly investigated...and if you do any research aside from the documentaries, there still is insufficient evidence to say beyond a reasonable doubt that those 3 are the killers. I think it's quite rude that because I have a differing opinion, you tell me to shut the hell up. But hey, whatever floats your boat. The truth is that I've done tons of research on this subject. How bout you...tons of research or do you just magically "KNOW" the truth by some otherworldly means that we don't understand?

[missfairy]

I just came across this article for those of you who claim the documentaries (and possibly the website) are biased:

www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=4287&IssueNum=169

It's a recent article that also touches on some unsavory things in Echols' past. It has an interview with Echols', as well as an interview with Byers (step-father of one of the victims). It's quite a good read and seemed unbiased.

Also, for another good unbiased site, you can check out crimelibrary.com's profile of the case.

And the best source about the case is the Devil's Knot book...the author looked through all the evidence files, trial transcripts, and even interview investigators and others involved in the case.

[peasNcarrots]

darkenedsoul said:

peasncarrots said:

the so-called documentaries are biased at best......were any of you supporters of these 3 killers at the trials?.....if not, shut the hell up!....you have only seen one side of the story....

PnC, Question were you at the Trail's?

If you mean was I at the trials...then the answer is YES!....every day every second.......the killers of those children were caught and caught shall they remain.....

[missfairy]

Wow, if you are serious, then here's your chance to let people know...Tell us some CONCRETE evidence that they did it. Please, go right ahead.

[peasNcarrots]

missfairy said:

Wow, if you are serious, then here's your chance to let people know...Tell us some CONCRETE evidence that they did it. Please, go right ahead.

confessions, evidence on damiens clothes....you wm3 supporters ignore this and more....what could I say that would possibly convince you ? and why should I anyway?...no matter what you or I say Damien will rot in jail..... as he should

[missfairy]

Never heard of any evidence on damien's clothes. Elaborate. I'm seriously all-ears.

Confessions? Plural? To my understanding, there was one confession, from a boy of 72 IQ after 12 hours of questioning, with no legal counsel or parents present...and one other thing; the details he gave didn't even match up with the actual crime. Coercion happens frequently. Not to mention that he recanted THAT DAY.

Well obviously, nothing I can say would convince you either so I guess we're even. If I were presented with concrete evidence of their guilt, I would be inclined to feel differently but after all the research I've done, there's nothing that has even presented a doubt in my mind about the case.

Damien may rot in jail, as you say, but unless it is proven that they did it, I will continue to pray for his freedom. And I will continue to support awareness of this case so that similar things don't happen in the future.

(Maybe one day I will share my own story of how rumors of satanism can screw with your life...)

[Pontotocmom]

Evidence -- confession sufficient to sustain conviction if accompanied by other proof that offense was committed by someone. -- Where two witnesses testified that they overheard appellant Echols state that he killed the three boys, this was direct evidence; a confession is sufficient to sustain a conviction if it is accompanied by other proof that the offense was committed by someone.

Evidence -- substantial evidence of appellant Echols's guilt. -- There was substantial evidence of the guilt of appellant Echols where, among other things, the testimony of witnesses placed him in dirty clothes near the crime scene at a time close to the murders; where two independent witnesses reported Echols's statement that he had killed the three boys and was direct evidence of the statement; where a criminalist from the State Crime Laboratory and a State Medical Examiner testified concerning the similarity of fibers found on the victim's clothes with clothing found in Echols's home and the serrated wound patterns on the three victims that were consistent with, and could have been caused by, a knife found in a lake behind appellant Baldwin's parents' residence; where, given the testimony of a witness that she had seen Echols carrying a similar knife and the testimony of the owner of a knife collector service regarding that type of knife, the jury could have reasonably concluded that Echols or Baldwin disposed of the knife in the lake; where Echols admitted on cross-examination that he had delved deeply into the occult and was familiar with its practices and where various items that had been found in his room supported the State's theory of motive that the killings were done in a satanic ritual; where an expert in occult killings testified that there was significantevidence of satanic ritual killings; where a detective testified that Echols had made a statement regarding the mutilation of one of the victims that the jury could have reasonably concluded he would not have known about unless he had been involved in some manner; and where Echols's testimony contained additional evidence of guilt.

courts.state.ar.us/opinions/1996a/961223sc/cr94-928.html

[missfairy]

I have to give you props because you have done your homework in an intelligent manner instead of just being rude!

I will look into some of the things you said and get back to you.

As for witnesses claiming that Echols supposedly went around talking about committing the murder, I've heard that a few of the people who had given similar statements had years later admitted they were lying and they had based their statements on opinion & hearsay instead of actually witnessing anything.

The knife wounds were from a common household serrated knife that anyone would have in their home. The knife in the lake did not have fingerprints or DNA on it as far as I know and therefore is not all that helpful in proving or disproving anything.

"where Echols admitted on cross-examination that he had delved deeply into the occult and was familiar with its practices and where various items that had been found in his room supported the State's theory of motive that the killings were done in a satanic ritual;"

A wicca book and other goth items is their evidence of satanism. If that is the case, boy am I in trouble..

Another point I'd like to bring up is that none of the 3 match the bite marks on the boys.

PS. All this discussion on here had me looking around the site today and lo and behold there's no Mississippi Support Group listed so I have now started a yahoo group in support of finding the truth. groups.yahoo.com/group/MS_WM3/

[Pontotocmom]

Evidence -- mitigating circumstances -- jury did not
arbitrarily refuse to find that appellant Echols had no
significant history of criminal activity. -- The jury did not
arbitrarily refuse to find that appellant Echols had no
significant history of criminal activity where Echols admitted
on cross-examination in the penalty phase of the trial that he
had an altercation with his father in which a knife was
involved and the police were called; where he admitted that he
was hospitalized that same day and that when his father came
to the hospital, "I told him I would eat him alive"; where he
admitted that he tried "to claw the eyes out" of a student;
and where a psychologist who testified for Echols admitted
that Echols had "an all-powerful God-like image of himself,"
that his parents were concerned with his satanism or devil
worship, and that Echols's medical records included notations
of statements by Echols pertaining, among other things, to his
rage and the drinking of the blood of others.

This was stated at trial also this little tidbit.

Evidence -- relevance -- book on history of witches was
relevant to show appellant Echols's interest in occult. -- A
book on the history of witches, which was found in appellant
Echols's room after the murders, was relevant to show
appellant's interest in the occult.

[Pontotocmom]

Misskelley may had a low IQ but he knew of things the general public did not know at the time:

Appeal & error -- finding that accomplice was reliable
informant not clearly in error. -- The trial court's finding
that the accomplice Misskelley was a reliable informant was
not clearly in error where, even though the accomplice's
initial statement was in error about the ligatures and the
time of the killings, he corrected the latter and he clearly
knew which of the victims had been castrated and that one of
the victims had been cut in the face; where this information
was not known by the public at the time he supplied it; where
a detective corroborated these statements by his own knowledge
gained at the crime scene, and through contacts at the state
crime laboratory; and where the accomplice implicated himself
in the murders because he admitted that one of the victims
attempted to escape from the crime scene and that he chased
and caught the boy and brought him back.

[peasNcarrots]

There were lots and lots of errors made during the investigation and subsequent trials...that has been well documented and pointed out.....that doesn't make three killers innocent....if damien and crew didn't do it, who did? Mr Bojangles? HA!......Maybe we should get OJ to look for the real killers as he is doing for the slayer of Nicole!

[Pontotocmom]

peasncarrots, Most of the supporters are pointing the finger at Mr. Byers.

[missfairy]

peasNcarrots, you are right, errors do not mean they are innocent. However, it sure did help in proving their supposed guilt, right? *wink wink* I'm not going to comment on who did it. There were several suspects who were not properly investigated and therefore it is hard to say. You make it seem as though Mr. Bojangles, a person showing up to a local restaurant bloody, is laughable as a suspect. I find your dismissing this as laughable.

Bringing up O.J....Wow. What to say to this except it is another example of the justice system not always working properly...

Pontotoc Mom: I have previously read many of the things you have posted and there is still not evidence actually tieing any of them to the scene of the crime or the boys. No DNA, no matching of the teeth marks, no fingerprints, or anything else resembling concrete evidence.

And as you have posted that a book of witches does show an interest in the occult, it still does not prove satanism. (Not that even satanism is that big of a deal in this day and age. Most actual satanists do not perform sacrificial rituals or anything of the sort!) I have a book of witches, does this, in your eyes, mean that I would sacrifice children to "Satan"?

As for any info Misskelley had on the case, it could be easily explainable as; small town things spread fast whether it is admittedly public knowledge or not, OR, it could be that during the 12 hours of police interrogation this info was part of the confession which was possibly coached into him for the 46 minutes of actual audio that was recorded. Other facts still did not match, like the time of the murders and other key factors.

Sorry if I come off as persistent with this subject, but it is close to my heart as I have experienced extreme prejudice for being weird.

[peasNcarrots]

Missfairy...I too have experienced extreme prejudice for being weird.....I was not allowed to enroll in high school until I cut my hair....I played Bass in a number of bands and wore makeup on stage before it was the normal thing to do...needless to say I have been beaten up and persecuted time and time again just because of the way I dressed and looked......

Having said that, this case was more than just arrest the weird kids in town and let's all assume they are guilty....that is what damien wants you to believe.......when in truth the weird kids were arrested because they committed these crimes.......there wasn't a phantom that flew into town and did these horrible acts and then melted back into nite.....you wanna talk weird? JMB is weider than all three suspects......doesn't mean he did it no more than the WM3 are guilty just because they acted a little weird.........DiG DEEPER.......evidence is there