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Post by zipzam on Oct 13, 2006 8:39:33 GMT -6
maybe i misunderstood, but i heard something like that on the radio this morning.
at the "race relations" meeting tupelo had last night they spoke of problems of segregated churches and want the council involved.
what happened to seperation of church and state?
i do find it strange that most churches are not "mixed"... but the govt has NO right to say or do ONE thing about it.
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Post by Frey on Oct 13, 2006 9:07:06 GMT -6
I certainly hope the topic of religion was not brought up as part of the race problem in Tupelo. If religion is to be kept out of government, then government should have no say on who goes to church where.
The separation of church and state (which is NOT in the Constitution...It actually comes from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson) is a great idea in my opinion. The council should have no say on something like that. I do believe that a person has the right to worship they way they see fit (even if it is different from my way) as long as they are not infringing on the rights of others. If certain people have a problem with race in relation to church attendance...THOSE people need to get out and invite other races to attend service with them and not complain about it. It is not the local government's problem, and they certainly have no power to do anything about it.
You know, I would hate that someone would just invite me to go to church with them on the basis of the color of my skin.... I would hope they were more concerned with where I was going to spend eternity...
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Post by zipzam on Oct 13, 2006 9:24:36 GMT -6
from the wtva website: "Tupelo City Leaders Hear Public Opinions on Racial Issues More than 100 people turned out Thursday night at the BancorpSouth Center to discuss racial issues in Tupelo.
A public forum was held for city leaders to find out what those issues are and what can be done about them.
The participants cited more than 25 issues, but the issue voted as the top one was the need to recruit and hire more minorities in government and in the school system.
That was followed by getting rid of police discrimination, making sure the education system meets the needs of all people, eliminating segregation in churches, and admitting racism exists. "
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Post by zipzam on Oct 13, 2006 9:27:50 GMT -6
"Councilwoman Nettie Davis chairs the Race Relations Committee on the council, which organized the forum. "
i'm wondering if nettie supports this idea of the council telling churches to "eliminate segregation". it's NONE of the govt's business!
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Post by rutrow on Oct 13, 2006 10:11:43 GMT -6
what happened to seperation of church and state? i do find it strange that most churches are not "mixed"... but the govt has NO right to say or do ONE thing about it. It is only separation of church and state when religion seems to worm into state matters. ;D I've visited mixed churches and churches of all one race. I found that if a church is mostly all one race, it is because the people in that particular church want it to be so. They prefer one another's company and the fact that particular church is all white or all black is purely coincidental. My spouse has visited all black churches and has been received with royal treatment, not because of being a different color, but because of the Love of God in those churches. I think what we have here is a problem being created that is not a problem. I have never heard any black leader or white leader complain about race relations in a church setting. Why start now? Are not people free to gather in places of worship of their preference?
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Post by King Rat on Oct 13, 2006 10:21:36 GMT -6
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the cultural difference in black and white churches. It has nothing to do with racism. Should all churches welcome different races? Absolutely. To do otherwise would be against God's teachings. Should the government step in and mandate it? Absolutely NOT.
I fear the trend we are seeing with the Tupelo Council is one of a few people who think they are better than the common herd imposing their narrow views onto the rest of us. This trend will continue and expand until the citizens of Tupelo stand up and throw the current council members out on their ears.
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Post by Frey on Oct 13, 2006 11:54:50 GMT -6
Just a thought...
If the local government does decide to overstep the boundaries between church and state, are they going to use the Mississippi National Guard to make sure that white people go into black churches and black people go into white churches (I say "go" as opposed to "can go" because of the desegregation issue... This is Mississippi, and desegregation has to be forced)?
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Post by Frey on Oct 13, 2006 15:38:11 GMT -6
OOOOHHHH... Tupelo can start bussing white people to black churches...
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Post by Lorri on Oct 13, 2006 23:39:34 GMT -6
How can they decide where people will go to church? They can't force the issue - to be honest I don't hink most people that are christians see people in colors, and if they do they need to read the good book - I agree with the comment above that people do tend to be social with their own race - but todays children, our countries future are much more open minded on the race issue. Personally I could give a rats behind what color someone is - I am more concerned about their heart - and I am a chatty person, so I could talk a smoke stack dry and not care what color brick it was.
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Post by rishken on Oct 15, 2006 10:47:09 GMT -6
I would like to see all churches desegregated.But, that should be something the congregations of the churches should decided and not the goverment.
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Post by King Rat on Oct 16, 2006 6:53:10 GMT -6
Personally I could give a rats behind what color someone is - Please don't go giving my behind away.....
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Post by TF Admin on Oct 16, 2006 19:49:31 GMT -6
Please don't go giving my behind away..... Like that's possible...HAH! Seriously though, think about this: The once rosy picture everyone painted about this council is tarnished and stained in the weeks of late. Many have claimed "backroom" deals and now that the CoffeePot 5 are exposed, what else is lurking in the shadows? The bi-racial committee is onl exposing what everyone knows is already there, but how does one LEGISLATE racial harmonization for religious houses of worship? HMM? I mean, this entire line of thinking is ludicrous. Are we, the VOTING CITIZENS of Tupelo, to believe that not only can the council decide what is best for our health, our pets, our money, and now, our religious racial makeup for our Churches? Who are these people? I really am at a total loss when trying to figure out what is going on. Someone please straighten me out. TF
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Post by King Rat on Oct 17, 2006 6:50:36 GMT -6
Don't worry, TF, the Council will get around to straightening you out. I wonder how far down their hit list internet forums are? Like second hand smoke, pit bulls and segrated churches, forums most like offend somebody. And that can't be allowed in a retirement community like Tupelo.
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Post by cntryldyx3 on Oct 17, 2006 17:12:56 GMT -6
The council needs to butt out of this one.Where you go to church cannot be governed by other people.This is between a person and God.In my opinion,I would rather go to church with a spiritual black person than some of the cold,unfeeling white people in our church.
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Post by calliope on Oct 17, 2006 21:47:18 GMT -6
I think it's important to remember who's leading the charge on this multi-racial thing. It's Nettie Davis, who cannot breathe and think simultaneously. And she's flanked by Doyce Deas, who is doing Nettie's every bidding. Gotta build that black voter base for the next mayoral election, you know.
I hope people remember all this crap when it's time to vote again.
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