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Post by countrygirl on Mar 19, 2005 0:28:04 GMT -6
Is anybody who have children going to school having to answer questions about their family life? Like if they have moved in the past couple of years and such as this? I had to sign a statement saying our primary language in our home is English. Then our children came home with a questionaire both in English and in Spanish asking personal questions. What gives?
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Post by taxed on Mar 19, 2005 10:10:27 GMT -6
Almost every year I get a form from Lee Co. schools wanting to know all kinds of personal information. Supposedly, it is for Title 1 funds (whatever that is). I just throw it in the trash.
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Post by beastmanjack on Mar 19, 2005 11:25:26 GMT -6
I don't believe the school can ask such questions. you know right to privateacy(sp). But everyday the schools want to be the parents and if they had their way leave you completely out of the loop.
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Post by Pontotocmom on Mar 19, 2005 11:40:13 GMT -6
I just fill it all out and send it back to them. And if it is too nosy I write n/a on it or call me and I'll answer so far no one really wanted to know because I didn't get called.
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Post by wittzo on Mar 19, 2005 13:38:48 GMT -6
Some of it is part of the Patriot Act, some of it is for funding. I guess if you say that English is not your first language, they get a break since they're not totally bilingual. Some of my kids' teachers can barely handle spelling English words much less a foreign language.
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Post by Pontotocmom on Mar 19, 2005 15:17:38 GMT -6
You know I've wondered about that. When I took my 1st grader to the first day there was a spanish child crying his heart out I asked the teacher what was wrong with him and she said she didn't know because none of the teachers spoke spanish. I called my daughter and had her come up there. The problem was he didn't understand how he was going to get home that evening because his mom said ride the bus and he thought there was only one to get on then after he was at school he saw " many many bus." After she explained it to him he quit crying. I know they have people up there to teach the children english but it seems to me it would be just as easy to teach some of the teachers spanish.
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Post by wittzo on Mar 19, 2005 15:45:58 GMT -6
Soon, we are all going to have to learn some conversational Spanish since Hispanics are now the largest non-white minority.
I'm not saying we need to bend over backwards and make it too Spanish friendly, they still need an incentive to develop a working knowledge of English. If I went to live in a foreign country, they sure wouldn't help me out by having three different languages on every sign like we do. I would have to learn the basics of their language.
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Post by dulce on Mar 20, 2005 0:25:48 GMT -6
But everyday the schools want to be the parents and if they had their way leave you completely out of the loop. oh come on! the LAST thing schools want to be is be the parents! let's face it, schools deal with kids whose parents dont want to be parents! and THAT is the problem. parents who are out of the loop are out of the loop b/c they choose to be. progress reports go out in the from of a report card every nine weeks and a progress at the half of that. some teachers send their own b/w that and call. and guess what! parents can OMG call the school and the teacher as well! but see, that would make the life of the teacher easier. as for happenings at the schools, newsletters. some have daily others have weekly or monthly.
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Post by dulce on Mar 20, 2005 0:26:13 GMT -6
I just fill it all out and send it back to them. And if it is too nosy I write n/a on it or call me and I'll answer so far no one really wanted to know because I didn't get called. thank you.
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Post by dulce on Mar 20, 2005 0:30:34 GMT -6
Some of it is part of the Patriot Act, some of it is for funding. I guess if you say that English is not your first language, they get a break since they're not totally bilingual. Some of my kids' teachers can barely handle spelling English words much less a foreign language. students who are classified ESL (english as second language) or ELL (english language learners) receive services for helping them adjust. students have to test in to see at what level their speech and comprehension is and continue until they test at a proficient level to opt out of the service. just b/c a student speaks english doesnt mean they understand everything they read or hear. it is sometimes necessary to make modifications to help them learn. also part of NCLB (no child left behind)
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Post by rockinrickus on Apr 19, 2006 19:14:33 GMT -6
Soon, we are all going to have to learn some conversational Spanish since Hispanics are now the largest non-white minority. I'm not saying we need to bend over backwards and make it too Spanish friendly, they still need an incentive to develop a working knowledge of English. If I went to live in a foreign country, they sure wouldn't help me out by having three different languages on every sign like we do. I would have to learn the basics of their language. Bull- this is America, they all need to learn English.
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Post by wittzo on Apr 20, 2006 7:31:21 GMT -6
I agree, they need to learn English, but they aren't going to unless they need to. There are lots of us that don't know all the words in the English language. From their posts, they even have trouble spelling simple words like road instead of rode, retarted instead of retarded, your instaed of you're, etc....
The way things are going, we'll all be speaking Mexicano whether we want to or not.
One of my buds at work told me that he finally got Easter off so he could go to Easter Mass at his church. Unfortunately, his church had Easter Mass on Saturday night when he was working. Easter Mass was in Spanish for all the Mexicans to attend.
In ten years, that church will be exclusively Mexican, I bet.
We need to learn enough Spanish so we can tell if our waiter is laughing about us or just laughing, in case we need to Man up and take care of things.
To bring this back to schools...
The parents are too busy making money to learn English, that's why they swam here. The kids will be the ones to learn, we just need to get them started.
It is crazy that everything in some of my kids' classes is labeled in English and Spanish.
They read ethnic stories about Russian Jews, Chinese, Japanese, Africans(not American Blacks, but REAL Africans), Mexicans, and Arabs before they know the basic "See thingy Run". Instead it's "Moisha shlepped his way to the deli to get a gnosh. Oy vey!"
I got kids who understand Yiddish better than me and none of us has been near the Bronx! Oy vey! ;D
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