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Post by wittzo on Mar 13, 2005 21:59:09 GMT -6
A new thread so you can talk about prayer in school. As long as there are pop quizes, there will be prayer in schools... Let's see how long the thread lasts. ;D
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Post by jaykay on Mar 13, 2005 22:18:34 GMT -6
I see nothing wrong with a child praying anywhere he is but i have a problem with someone forcing him or her to do so.There are many religions and every one is a little diffrent.I believe that a child needs to learn from home and from their church. How do we know that when it is done at school they aren't putting their particular influence into it.I prefer to teach mine from the bible and if we would all go by it there would be no arguments. As Magnolia stated earlier on the other thread each school has a meet me at flagpole or groups that meet but it is not supposed to be led by school officials.JMO
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Post by granny2young on Mar 13, 2005 23:25:13 GMT -6
I wouldn't want anything imposed or pushed on anyone, much less a child, but a simple prayer in the classroom to start the day or before meals teaches good morals and habits. For those who do not believe in prayer or our God, they can read quietly for the 2 minutes it would take or meditate on whatever they do believe and not be disruptive to those who do believe. I don't think that is imposing or forcing or shoving beliefs.
As far as teaching the Bible, or having Bible study I don't think I would want that, at least not until my child was way older because there are so many different views and interpretations on the Bible, but I think we should be allowed to take God with us where ever we go, including teachers in our classroom and judges in the court room if that is what they believe. In high school my daughter went to a christian private school. I didn't always agree with what they taught her, but she was old enough that it really opened opportunity for self study for her to find the answers within her heart.
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Post by countrygirl on Mar 14, 2005 1:19:03 GMT -6
We ARE allowed to take God with us where ever we go. If you are gonna let some man made rule keep you from taking God with you wherever you go, then you ain't got much.
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Post by Sky on Mar 14, 2005 11:31:35 GMT -6
Prayer has done nothing to stop unwed teenage pregancy, STD's, AIDS, rape, sexual abuse/violence, teenage drinking, drugs or school violence.
I also think it's hysterically comical that the religious right wants the Government (who takes billions of dollars a year from the pr0nOGRAPHIC industry and gives our children access to birth control/condoms without parental consent) wants to teach/indoctrinate my child about God.
Chances are if the Church and parents had paid more attention to their children and instructed them in a Christian life rather than leaving it up to Government instruction things would be different.
Thanks but no thanks. Hypocrisy has no place in prayer.
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Post by Sky on Mar 14, 2005 16:33:59 GMT -6
pr0n INDUSTRY...I DO KNOW HOW TO SPELL BUT IT WON'T MODIFY THE TYPO CORRECTLY.
NOW I SEE WHAT IT IS...THE STUPID LANGUAGE FILTER IS PUTTING IN PR0N....LAME.
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Post by wittzo on Mar 14, 2005 19:30:46 GMT -6
Your Net-Fu is weak, p*rn has been spelled pr0n for the last ten years to get around SPAM and language filters and it's become an integral it's part of l88t sp88k, n00b. Of course I only watch Christian pr0n, they must be praying, they yell out God and Jesus a lot. It's not a suggested method of public prayer, though. ;D As a total aside, the pr0n business is larger than a lot of the traditional media, it developed a consumer need for a lot of technology we use today, VCR's, DVD's, and the Internet are but a few. I've said this somewhere else before. The producers generate income, so therefore they are taxed just like people working in more sleazy industries, like law and politics. I don't want the school to raise my kids, they would end up being liberal touchy feely hippies living in Berkeley or the Florida Keys, totally out of touch of how the real world works. If you remind them that God is watching what they do, through a simple prayer, they might not participate in bad or immoral things. You just have to throw mud against the wall and hope that most of it sticks.
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Post by TF Admin on Mar 14, 2005 20:25:49 GMT -6
Of course I only watch Christian pr0n, they must be praying, they yell out God and Jesus a lot. It's not a suggested method of public prayer, though. ;D Too funny! TFADMIN
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Post by countrygirl on Mar 15, 2005 14:46:55 GMT -6
This is from the Muslim thread.
TF, I have to say that people aren't leaving the forums because of sky. And it isn't sky who doesn't let people have their opinions. There are many Christians on these boards who do not get flamed by sky.
Sky posted an article called "rapture awaits in the Florida Panhandle" the very next poster wrote a scathing response and accused her of being an atheist. Is this not attacking the poster? People are leaving because they see hypocrisy on this board and many are afraid of posting their opinions or even just an article. What is good for one should be good for the other. You can find justification for banning sky in your eyes, but in the eyes of a few other posters, it looks like favoritism. This is my opinion, and let's see how long I last here before I am told how "wrong" my opinion is.
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Post by granny2young on Mar 15, 2005 14:50:32 GMT -6
I am familiar with that post countrygirl, and I don't think it was an accusation, but a question. He asked her if she was. Big difference.
Of course, you are welcome to your opinion and say, please stick around and exercise that right.
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Post by countrygirl on Mar 15, 2005 14:58:03 GMT -6
Are you TF? I wasn't talking to you. But since you responded in TF's place, you missed the part that was posted " I assume you are atheist, or worse". It may be a big difference in YOUR eyes, but the little people out there see the difference.
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Post by granny2young on Mar 15, 2005 15:51:18 GMT -6
one of my duties as moderator on Tupelo Forums.com is to keep topics on track. With all due respect, Sky has nothing to do with prayer in school, and neither does dragging posts from locked threads here to keep it going. Let's get back on track. The discussion is prayer in schools.
I do believe that you cannot take prayer out of a person. God hears silent prayers, but he also said where 2 or 3 are gathered there I am in the midst. I may be wrong about this law, but I don't think this is what God had in mind.
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Post by countrygirl on Mar 15, 2005 16:06:22 GMT -6
So, now that u are done letting me know what such an important person you are, moderating and all, let me remind you that you are not the moderator of the religion forums at present. TF is and you get off topic many times yourself. All I am saying is that hypocrisy abounds on these forums and if TF allows it, then these boards are gonna fail.
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Post by jaykay on Mar 15, 2005 16:42:34 GMT -6
Religion and prayer in school is a touchy subject people tend to get very involved. I personally don't want my kids taught about religion in school because that is the job of the parents and their church.Parents and churches should be the one who instills morals the teachers are there to teach our children the three r's and give them a education. IMO that doesn't include religious matters. I also am a mod on a diffrent forum but i am no more or no less than anyone on here and my opinion is the same as their's just mine alone. When we rant and rail and try to stop someone from saying how they feel about a topic then we aren't being fair or unbiased. Sorry i'm off topic...... JK
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Post by TF Admin on Mar 15, 2005 17:09:22 GMT -6
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