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Post by granny2young on Dec 14, 2006 14:41:36 GMT -6
and I forgot this one. To be a bondsman in HIS jail, you have to kiss his arse or he will not let you write there and make a living. If Joe Blow's bail is set at 5000 and he calls a bondsman, and JJ don't want him out, he will cut your writing privileges off for some stupid reason. He is all about power, forget the law. He don't care if Joe is bondable and can get out, if he ticks him off he ain't getting out.
And don't get me started about inmate/attorney privileges. That is nonexistence. A public defender had to go to the judge to get a private conversation with his client, because JJ had the room bugged the first three times he tried to talk to him. He then, in turn, uses the information at court by saying someone anonymous told him, or he had a prison snitch that told him, then he don't get in trouble for bugging the room, and then that brings up the prison snitches. I realize they can be useful, but the way he uses them is unethical and unlawful.
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Post by King Rat on Dec 14, 2006 15:08:16 GMT -6
How many of these incidents did you personally witness and how many are hearsay?
This is what I personally witnessed:
An inmate bonded out but the bondsman brought the inmate back to the jail a few hours later and said she was a flight risk so the jailer put her back into a cell. JJ dressed down his jailer and told him to release the inmate immediately and ordered that the bondsman's writing privileges be revoked. JJ said he had warned the bondsman several times to stop doing it but he kept making a habit of it (basically, he was stealing the money of the inmates). JJ told the jailer that what he did was a violation of the inmate's rights and better not happen again. At no time during this conversation of several minutes did JJ refer to the jail as HIS jail.
So, at least in that one incident JJ stuck up for the inmate. Yes, he revoked the writing privilege of a bondsman but, in my opinion, rightfully so.
I'm not saying your incidents didn't happen, G2Y, I'm just saying they don't jive with what I personally witnessed.
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Post by rutrow on Dec 14, 2006 20:02:00 GMT -6
Without negating any of granny's statements, I would like to say that sometimes it depends on the person's crimes. Now, I am not saying that any criminal be mistreated, but without knowing what these people have done, or are accused of, I cannot condemn JJ for his actions. There are more sides to the story I would think. For instance, what did the 15 year-old do? I might would agree that it was way too harsh treatment if he shoplifted and ran. I might would have a tendency to side with JJ if the 15-year-old beat someone up, then robbed them, especially on the easier targets like the elderly. Perhaps I would agree on how JJ felt if the 15-year-old killed somebody in cold blood and ran as it is the sheriff's duty to apprehend a killer as quickly as possible. If I was chasing a killer, not knowing if that killer would get away and perhaps kill somebody else, well... I don't know if I would be in a rage or not having to go through all of that to apprehend an accused killer. So, without knowing the whole story, it is hard to make a judgment on this.
Same instance with a drunk person who drives a car, even at 40 mph. It is said that a person can get killed going only 30 mph when wrecking. We the people scream at law enforcement if they do not catch drunk drivers.
Like I said, I do not advocate abuse of anybody in police custody. They are to apprehend and detain accused prisoners, not execute the penalty by their own hand. But there is usually so much more to the story than what is presented, even by law enforcement.
And, law enforcement sees much more bad things done to good people than we see. It is a nasty job I would think. I have heard of many good lawmen, and I have heard of crooked lawmen. It is one of those things that have to be looked at on an individual basis, I suppose.
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Post by mantcitn on Dec 15, 2006 12:38:01 GMT -6
I have to agree with KR, there are always two sides to every story. I don't condon police brutality but sometimes the people that law enforcement has to deal with they don't understand anything but harshness. I just don't think you can judge someone by hearing one side of the story.
As for Terry Jones, I sure hope he runs for Lee CO Sheriff, that would get him out of Itawamba County!!!! ;D
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Post by DarkenedSoul on Dec 15, 2006 13:42:54 GMT -6
As for Terry Jones, I sure hope he runs for Lee CO Sheriff, that would get him out of Itawamba County!!!! ;D NoNoNo You're STUCK with Him ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by granny2young on Dec 15, 2006 15:59:35 GMT -6
the majority of families/people I work with are charged with murder, and yes I understand the seriousness of the crime, but it is up to a jury to decide their fate, not JJ and the good ole boys. Once they are in custody and are no threat, there is no reason to abuse and hurt them. None whatsoever, especially a child. It's not so much the treatment of the prisoners that bugs me, as much as the mistreatment of their families and even mistreatment of the victims themselves. There is no reason for that. I also understand the pressure and stress that comes along with the job. I was a bailbondsman for many years and I see what they go through. I rode with some of them, but my take is if you can't handle the job, then step aside and let someone who can. Power trips and ugliness have no place in law enforcement.
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Post by rutrow on Dec 15, 2006 20:11:46 GMT -6
As for Terry Jones, I sure hope he runs for Lee CO Sheriff, that would get him out of Itawamba County!!!! ;D uhhh.... every county needs a good law enforcement official. I see you all have found yours. ;D We promise we won't take him away from ya'll.
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Post by mantcitn on Dec 18, 2006 16:15:54 GMT -6
Gee thanks rutrow!! You are so kind....lol I'm afraid we are stuck with him. I haven't heard that he is going to run for sheriff of Ita co. he wasn't able to carry Mantachie (his home town) the last two times he ran so it would be stupid to run again. He has the mayor and board of Mantachie wrapped around his finger so why would he want to ruin a good thing. Of course lets not forget he has several family members on the board....that always helps!! But now if he ran in Lee Co he might do better....people over there don't know him as well.....ummmm just a thought.
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Post by mantcitn on Dec 18, 2006 16:17:07 GMT -6
Oh and I did mean to add I like the sarcasum about "good law enforcement official" that's funny!!!
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Post by mantcitn on Dec 29, 2006 9:05:11 GMT -6
I hear John Spradlin is running in Itawamba County, what you guys think about him?
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