I Strongly Dislike PETA

[Frey]

I found this link on Drudge...

PETA Upset at Six Flags Roach Contest


Sep 25, 7:53 AM (ET)


GURNEE, Ill. (AP) - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants Six Flags Great America to scrap its Halloween-themed BIG BOY thingyroach-eating promotion.

A spokeswoman for the animal rights organization says the contest at the amusement park's FrightFest is "gratuitously cruel."

The park in Gurnee, Ill., is joining other Six Flags parks in offering unlimited line-jumping privileges to anyone who eats a live Madagascar hissing BIG BOY thingyroach. The bugs are up to three inches long.

The contest begins next month.

Amusement park officials are defending their menu choice. Great America spokesman Jim Taylor says the bugs are nutritious, high in protein and fat free.

...I must know...When someone who is involved in PETA finds a roach in their house, do they peacefully coexist with it?

[zipzam]

PETA... while i can understand the reason they exist(nutjobs that beat animals for thrills)... they just come off as total wackjobs too many times.

anyway, there's a place for all of God's creatures... right beside the mashed potatoes.

[Frey]

I LOVE THE WORD FILTER!!!!!!!!

[granny2young]

I am sure they don't co-exhist with them peacefully, but I highly doubt they eat them. EWWWWWWWW that is just disgusting.

[missfairy]

PETA, ALF, and some other animal rights organizations are nothing but terrorists trying to force their beliefs on other people.

Here are some Peta links for you :
www.animalscam.com/Peta_7things.cfm
www.petakillsanimals.com/petaKillsAnimals.cfm
www.etalkinghead.com/archives/peta-terrorizes-children-again-2004-03-27.html

And of course there's the growing number of infant deaths from veganism:
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/20/national/main668225.shtml
www.courttv.com/trials/swinton/033103_ctv.html

I encourage you all to do your own research on these types of organizations...

[Frey]

I am not against animal rights, but I do believe if the death of an animal can better our chances for finding cures to diseases, it needs to be killed. Groups such as PETA seem to value animal life above the life of a human being. That is utterly senseless.

[missfairy]

Oh I'm not against supporting animal welfare. (especially disgusting slaughterhouse conditions and such as that)

Animal rights just seems an inappropriate phrase...What next...the right to vote for Sparky & Bessy? ;D

[King Rat]

While I won't say PETA is glad The Crocodile Hunter is dead, the group didn't like him because he violated animals' rights by "exploiting" them. Last week I saw an interview with the guy who used to be Marlin Perkins' right-hand man on the old Mutual Of Omaha's Wild Kingdom series (Jim something or other). Jim blasted PETA for "not having a clue" about animals.

I agree that groups like PETA and ALF are nothing more than terrorist organizations who will stop at nothing to further their own agenda.

[TF Admin]

If by PETA's definition of "exploiting animals" means conservation, education, and developing respect for wild animals, then I'm ALL FOR IT! I bet PETA hates Animal Planet as well...what a bunch of morons. What are we supposed to do? Be ignorant, and just let them go there way and we go ours?

I keep thinking of my last trip to California. I saw the devastation PETA can do to entire communities. The logging industry in Northern California was decimated by one "endangered" animal, the Spotted Owl. PETA lead the charge, and got lawmakers to "protect" this animal by stopping all logging. Thousands and thousands of people lost jobs, many moved away, many of the small towns are nothing more than shells of their former selves as people left.

The logging industry was willing to fund entire conservation programs to help out, but PETA would have none of that, they enlisted the Tree Huggers into their campaign, and that was the final nail in the coffin.

It reall is strange driving through some of those towns and seeing all the empty buildings...they just died. PETA would rather people get hurt and become "endangered" than an owl, that as far as I know has NEVER been officially put on the "endangered species" list.

Read below:

FRESNO, Calif. May 23, 2006 (AP)— The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on Tuesday rejected a petition to list the California spotted owl under the Endangered Species Act, saying the population is stable and programs that prevent forest wildfires will allow it to thrive.

The decision rankled the environmental groups that had requested protection of the speckled, football-sized owl. This was their second effort to list the bird in three years.

The petition's denial was based in part on the recommendation of scientists commissioned to study the owl, said Steve Thompson, manager of the agency's California-Nevada operations office.

They found that fires that creep through excessive brush and eventually consume the old-growth forests the owls prefer are their main threat, Thompson said, adding that U.S. Forest Service tree thinning programs will prevent the spread of flames and ensure the owls remain off the endangered list.

But environmentalists protested, saying the Sierra Nevada Forest Plan, amended in 2004 to allow cutting trees of up to 30 inches in diameter, is logging in disguise and destroys owl habitat.

"They're completely off base," said Noah Greenwald, with the Center for Biological Diversity's Portland office. "Logging is by far the most serious threat to the California spotted owl and the kind of fuel reduction they're talking about is just that logging."

Greenwald said that it's long been understood that the owls need mature trees. He said that thin, easily consumed vegetation such as grass, brush and small trees under 12 inches in diameter are what feed the raging fires that can race through California's hills in summer and fall.

Environmentalists said the petition's denial has more to do with the current political climate than with threats facing the owl.

Another threat to the California spotted owl is encroachment into its territory by a larger, more aggressive owl the barred owl, originally from the East Coast.

But although the eastern owl moved quickly into the Pacific Northwest, its spread into the Sierra has been slower than anticipated, and it hasn't reached Southern California yet, federal officials said.

Placing the owl under federal protection would have required officials to designate habitat that is essential for its recovery. That could have significant impact on activities allowed within the 11.5 million acres of national forests in the Sierra.

It could severely limit commercial logging in the area, as seen when a closely related subspecies the northern spotted owl was listed as threatened in 1990. Large tracts of federal forests were closed to logging in Northern California, Oregon and Washington, cutting back logging by 80 percent in federal forests and reducing it in private lands, and leaving timber-depended towns to face an economic slump.

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U.S. Rejects Protection for Spotted Owl
By Jane Kay, San Francisco Chronicle
May 24, 2006
Government says nocturnal predator's population growing
The federal government determined Tuesday that the California spotted owl does not need protection under the Endangered Species Act, a move that ruffled the feathers of environmental groups that are vowing to go to court on behalf of the bird.

After a yearlong review, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service concluded that the populations of the rare hooters are stable or increasing in forests of the Sierra Nevada and the coastal range from San Francisco to San Diego.

The agency decided primarily on a statistical study of four sites completed this year for the Fish and Wildlife Service and the U.S. Forest Service.

Darrin Thome, a biologist in the Fish and Wildlife Service's California-Nevada office in Sacramento, said the study showed that "adult survival through the Sierra is increasing. There was no strong evidence of a decreasing linear trend in the population.''

The Bush administration's forest plan to thin trees would aid the owls, he said, because the responsible removal of vegetation would prevent catastrophic wildfires. "Cutting trees will help the owls because their territories won't burn to a crisp," Thome said.


But the agency's decision, which is set for publication today in the Federal Register, brought derisive hoots from environmental groups that have been trying to win listing for more than 15 years.

"Fish and Wildlife made an assumption that fire was the most serious threat to the California spotted owl, and so logging would reduce the threat," said Noah Greenwald, a conservation biologist for the Center for Biological Diversity, one of the groups that has filed two petitions and a lawsuit trying to win listing since 2000.

"We think that's preposterous. The most serious threats are clearly logging and the barred owl, a larger competitor,'' Greenwald said. His group and the Sierra Nevada Forest Protection Campaign in Placerville are considering suing the agency over the decision.

For 15 years, scientists have studied the elusive round-headed, ringed-eye California spotted owl weighing less than 2 pounds. It's the cousin of the high-profile northern spotted owl, which stopped logging in some parts of the Pacific Northwest 15 years ago after regulators determined it was threatened, and the warm-weather Mexican spotted owl.


Both the northern and the Mexican subspecies of the spotted owl were designated as threatened as the big trees in their territories disappeared over decades of clear-cutting.

Researchers estimate there are 2,300 territories where the California spotted owl lives in the United States. A territory consists of a single owl, a pair, or a pair and offspring.

In contrast, the northern spotted owl has about 6,000 territories in its range from southern British Columbia and western Washington and Oregon to San Francisco.

A listing of endangered or threatened for the California spotted owl likely would lead to restrictions on logging on public and private timberlands.

According to the Fish and Wildlife Service, Sierra Pacific Industries, the largest private landowner of commercial forests in the state, has begun efforts to increase owl habitat.

Thome said large-scale logging doesn't pose the threat that it did during the era when the northern spotted owl was listed in 1990. He cited figures obtained from the California Board of Equalization showing that between 1993 and 2004, logging in the Sierra Nevada has been reduced on private lands by 37 percent and in national forests by 81 percent.

But Greenwald said he sees the agency's decision not to list the owl as political. During President George H.W. Bush's administration, 234 species were listed, while 512 species were listed under the Clinton administration. Only 56 species have been brought under the act under the current president, he said.

"This decision has to be looked at in the context that the Bush administration has again and again showed opposition to protecting species under the Endangered Species Act,'' Greenwald said.

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[King Rat]

PETA, if I remember correctly, considers the filming of animals, against their will, to be exploitation.

The terrorism PETA and ALF have directed at the logging industry has truly devastated that industry and the direct result has been an increase in forest fires - destroying the very trees and animals they claim to have been protecting.

Remember when ALF burned millions of dollars worth of SUVs, justifying it by the "damage" SUVs do to the environment?

Likewise, the leftist terrorist groups have driven many farmers to bankruptcy by finding activist judges to ban irrigation from streams and rivers and by outlawing the use of rivers and streams to provide drinking water for livestock.

[momof3]

cpurdon said:

PETA, if I remember correctly, considers the filming of animals, against their will, to be exploitation.

How do they know if it's against their will?


Do they have to get their permission? Do they have to sign a
waiver? a release form?

I'll bet the animals have their attorneys (PETA employees) to read each release to make sure that their rights are not being violated before they sign. Besides isn't that what all smart animals should do?

[King Rat]

It's kinda like when the head of NOW said that ALL sex between a male and a female was rape.

[zipzam]

cpurdon said:

It's kinda like when the head of NOW said that ALL sex between a male and a female was rape.

what context was that statement from?

if the head of NOW was asked about prosecuting deb lefave vs prosecuting a male teacher sleeping with a child... i understand the answer. (although, it wasn't clearly clarified by the head of NOW).

and rat... i gotta question for ya... will PM shortly.

[TupeLemming]

I do agree PETA is just a little too cozy with animals for my taste. People that eat BIG BOY thingyroaches are just disgusting and looking for attention. The spotted owl hoopla will NEVER be over, and the government is always right. They aare always right because they love my sausage balls. There's goodness inside every ball. You just gently squeeze them between your teeth and out pops my special surprise sauce! Dang! There good!

<<I apologize in advance to the dirty minds that will "read" the sexual innuendo in my post.>>

[TF Admin]

TupeLemming, that is just too funny. Your getting a blessing for that.

TF