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Post by TF Admin on Feb 8, 2005 22:09:13 GMT -6
It seems everyone is holding out hope that the new Gas Station in front of Sam's is going to drive prices down.
It might on the north end of town, but I doubt it for the rest of town. Take a look at Dodge's and Kroger. Dodge's has the cheapest gas in town, Kroger's will match Dodge's price if you have a Kroger Plus Card.
I don't exactly see all the other Texaco's, BP's, and Chevron's tripping over themselves to match Dodge's price. So I have little hope that this new gas station will improve the situation overall, but for those that live on the north end of town, you will receive the benefit.
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Post by MSNGWife on Feb 9, 2005 17:34:55 GMT -6
The Walmart in Fulton has a gas deal. It's pretty reasonable if you live over that way.
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Post by TF Admin on Feb 9, 2005 17:43:43 GMT -6
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Post by BSIGrimreaper on Feb 12, 2005 11:08:19 GMT -6
One little note on gas prices, You need to blame the goobers at OPEC. Not the local gas companys. All they are trying to do is earn a living. If they made so much money off us, don't you think there would be more people opening there own gas stations/ oil companys. Just a little look thur the eyes of the oil companys locally & you would see how much some of them are hurting trying to stay competitive & in buisness. BSIGrimreaper  what do we want in the future, only thing open in town is Wal-mart, only Gas station in town, Wal-mart. Not me. |
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Post by tupelowatchdog on Feb 14, 2005 8:54:52 GMT -6
One little note on gas prices, You need to blame the goobers at OPEC. Not the local gas companys..... what do we want in the future, only thing open in town is Wal-mart, only Gas station in town, Wal-mart. Not me. True to a point. Supply and demand plays a crucial role in this as well. The problem I see is that gas and oil companies raise their prices IMMEDIATELY when the price changes....there is no trickle down effect. They begin making extra profit on gas from oil that has already been purchased/refined/put into gasoline. Can someone explain why we do not see such a drastice increase on oil that we also consume in vehicles? Walmart always carry their brand at 88 cents....could it be the price stays the same regardless of what the market is because it is oil already purchased and in the retail channel? TWD |
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Post by BSIGrimreaper on Feb 15, 2005 18:26:52 GMT -6
Just a little note to the uninformed.
The MURPHY USA located in or near most
Wal-Marts are not owned my Wal-Mart.
They just have an agreement to work
together. The Walmart/Sams Gas terminal
located in Tupelo,MS IS owned my Walmart/Sams.
Want to know why they can undersell most
everyone in town, including Savings. Wal-Mart/
Sam's can afford to LOSE money in Gasoline
business over short times, so that they can
hurt local gas companys & even push some out
of business. Why you ask, do that. Well back to
my previous post. What happened to all the
Ma' & Pa' hardwear & grocery stores that used to
be located on every corner of Tupelo & the surrounding
Lee County area? Well Wal-Mart Happened.
Price cut one big item or more, get the customer
into the store & he/she will buy other items too!
If you don't Understand, just look at it this way,
if you go to wal-mart to buy one item, I bet you
4 times out of 5 you come away with more than
you planned on buying. Go take Economic in
college, you can learn a lot about how old Walton
was a genius. The only thing is what will happen
when all we have to shop at is Wal-mart? What
will the prices be then, & will they be falling prices
or RAISING prices!
BSIGrimreaper
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Post by wittzo on Feb 18, 2005 0:06:17 GMT -6
I went their on Tuesday. I was glad to see the gas prices. I had to go inside to get a new Sam's card so it could read it, but even the regular price was so much cheaper than everyone else's. Sam's is already going to make $35 off you whether you walk into the store or pull up to the pump or not from your membership dues. Walmart will raise their prices eventually, this is just a grand opening sale. They will undercut other places forcing some of them to lower their prices to remain competitive. I drive right by the high gas prices at Sprint Mart and Shell at Barnes Crossing so I can make a special trip to Crosstown so I can use my Kroger card and get gas a nickel cheaper. When I was going to ICC, I would get gas at Savings if I was on vapors, 2 cents a gallon would only save me a whopping 40 cents. I don't feel sorry for the gas stations at all. They charge that much because they can,we're a captive audience, they've been gouging us for years. Just like the car dealerships. I know for a fact that some places have been making 20 to 30 cents a gallon profit for a looong time while their stores in other places were making a nickel a gallon. There's no reason that Wild Bill's in Sherman can sell gas 5 to 15 cents cheaper than anyone in Tupelo since the transport cost is negligible(3 cents a gallon, according to Grim). Gas is a loss leader, convenience stores don't make money off their gas, it's there to attract you to the overpriced drinks and cigarettes and beer. I'm going to have to set up another topic and label it Walmart rant. I have good and bad things to say about that 1000 lb go-rilla from Arkansas...  |
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Post by BSIGrimreaper on Feb 19, 2005 10:13:41 GMT -6
Humm... Wal-Mart = the great satan? Who knows..   BSIGrimreaper |
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Post by Odiekokee on Feb 22, 2005 23:00:32 GMT -6
Well, it's out of the way for most folkes, but the station at the hwy78/hwy9 intersection at sherman has been down in that range for a while...but don't go there on friday night. it's packed.
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Post by Magnolia on Feb 26, 2005 12:28:47 GMT -6
I work for one of the major gas stations/ convenience store companies in town, and we just had a meeting where we discussed gas prices. And the word from the president of our company is don't look for prices to go down anywhere other than near Sam's. So if you don't live on the north end of town, you'll still pay out the nose.
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Post by TF Admin on Feb 26, 2005 14:53:30 GMT -6
I work for one of the major gas stations/ convenience store companies in town, and we just had a meeting where we discussed gas prices. And the word from the president of our company is don't look for prices to go down anywhere other than near Sam's. So if you don't live on the north end of town, you'll still pay out the nose. Tupelo has NEVER had a history of all round growth. It grows in spurts and generally in one section of town. The Barnes Crossing trend wil continue for at least another 5 years possibly as much as ten. When these spurts happen they localize the retail economy of this town to that particular area. My father and I had a long talk about this several months ago, and if you want to know where the next big area is going to be watch the people who own undeveloped land, they'll put it up for sale, or they themselves will begin the development process. The localization of retail in and of itself is not detrimental, but a nuisance side effect of small city growth. That is why you will have to drive North to save money. One day, you may be driving South to save money,as it appears, South Gloster might be the next "BIG THING" once the highway is completed. TFADMIN |
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Post by BSIGrimreaper on Feb 26, 2005 15:38:12 GMT -6
I went their on Tuesday. I was glad to see the gas prices. I had to go inside to get a new Sam's card so it could read it, but even the regular price was so much cheaper than everyone else's. Sam's is already going to make $35 off you whether you walk into the store or pull up to the pump or not from your membership dues. Walmart will raise their prices eventually, this is just a grand opening sale. They will undercut other places forcing some of them to lower their prices to remain competitive. I drive right by the high gas prices at Sprint Mart and Shell at Barnes Crossing so I can make a special trip to Crosstown so I can use my Kroger card and get gas a nickel cheaper. When I was going to ICC, I would get gas at Savings if I was on vapors, 2 cents a gallon would only save me a whopping 40 cents. I don't feel sorry for the gas stations at all. They charge that much because they can,we're a captive audience, they've been gouging us for years. Just like the car dealerships. I know for a fact that some places have been making 20 to 30 cents a gallon profit for a looong time while their stores in other places were making a nickel a gallon. There's no reason that Wild Bill's in Sherman can sell gas 5 to 15 cents cheaper than anyone in Tupelo since the transport cost is negligible(3 cents a gallon, according to Grim). Gas is a loss leader, convenience stores don't make money off their gas, it's there to attract you to the overpriced drinks and cigarettes and beer. I'm going to have to set up another topic and label it Walmart rant. I have good and bad things to say about that 1000 lb go-rilla from Arkansas... Hey Wittzo Lets see that Wal-Mart rant topic. As for the Gas, its plan EXPENSIVE whoever you get it from. I still remember just a few years ago when it was $1.09. HECK when I was in College it was always around $.90 cents. BSIGrimreaper  |
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Post by tupelowatchdog on Mar 9, 2005 9:05:57 GMT -6
More fuel to the fire (pun intended) www.djournal.com/pages/story.asp?ID=188676&pub=1&div=NewsWhat strikes me about this article is the fact that Sams/Walmart are either oblivious or unwilling to acknowledge how they really hurt local business owners. Sure, gas is only one of the many thousands of things they sell, but c'mon it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out what's going on here. I noticed this morning at Dodge's on West maon...the good stuff was $2.09/gal And according to several articles I've seen online...there's no end in sight! I'm really rethinking my position on the hybrid cars now. TWD |
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Post by tupelowatchdog on Mar 9, 2005 9:25:45 GMT -6
Here's one of those articles I mentioned earlier from the DJ: www.djournal.com/pages/story.asp?ID=188668&pub=1&div=NewsI don't care how it's explained, I don't care who is to blame, but as long as the thieving organization known as OPEC is running the show, they are going to have us by the cojones and squeeze us bloody dry. Our government had better come up with some kind of plan to lessen the burden on all of us. Whether it means more drilling, or whatever. Foreign oil is wrecking middle and lower income America. Hybrids are a start, but I want a car that runs on water, or air, or both. Of course, then, we'd be paying out the nose just to breathe and drink. I'm pissed and frustrated, two things you should never do to this old dog! TWD |
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Post by wittzo on Mar 9, 2005 10:51:15 GMT -6
Hybrids are only a temporary solution and only help if you do a majority of "rea" city driving. We don't have a whole lot of typical stop-and-go driving unless you drive back and forth on downtown Main Street.
A couple of years ago, Car and Driver did a side-by-side comparison of the high performance Honda Civic, the High Efficiency Civic with an ECV(sp?) transmission, and the Civic Hybrid to see which one fared better on a trip from L.A. to N.Y.C.
The Hybrid got the best gas mileage, but only by a couple of MPG's, they both beat the performance model by at least 10 MPG. They determined (at that time) that the cost of the Hybrid over the life expentancy of the vehicle wouldn't pay for itself, if you wanted to save money, you should get the efficiency model.
Hybrids also have an undetermined life span for the batteries, which will cost as much as a new engine or more to replace. The manufacturers have a warranty on the batteries but it's not much longer than the powertrain warranty on a regular car.
An associate of mine was a mechanic for Toyota, he said that the Prius was okay, but it will be expensive to fix and hard to find someone to to work on it when the warranty runs out. At the time, they didn't have a tech that was certified on them. They had to send their customers to Memphis for the simplest problem. That might change in the future.
Hydrogen and biodiesel are our best bets. Right now they can produce hydrogen out of water using electrolysis using line current produced by power plants, but they can also use electricity produced by solar and wind which are totally free to harness. Plus gasoline powered cars only need a few mods to run on them.
Biodiesel can be used with any diesel engine without any modification either blended with diesel or used straight. It will also help the farmers, it can be made out of any vegetable or animal based oil, used or fresh. It's like a win-win situation, we can get out from under foreign supplies of oil and reduce subsidies on crops.
Even if only the existing diesel vehicles ran on B20(20% biodiesel), that would reduce the need for a lot of crude oil.
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